At the moment, we’re rewatching the 1991 film Hook, starring Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman and directed by Steven Spielberg.
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Present Notes:
Nova’s Lady Scout Cookies
Decor inspiration:
Granny Wendy’s Home
The kids’s bed room: a balcony with home windows that open so you may step out, vintage vibe, dollhouse, beds with canopies, fort that they constructed, cool previous crystal chandeliers, tasteful and fascinating wallpaper, and historic stuff.
Granny Wendy’s bed room: each inch of the wall was lined in artwork and gold frames.
Little touches all through home with hints for motion pictures: ship in bottle that’s Captain Hook’s ship, plenty of candles, and many frames.
Misplaced Boys Treehouse Compound
Extra a fantasy playground to take your youngsters to
Not one thing you’d need in your yard
Lengthy desk, skateboard ramp, zip strains, sling shot, and their very own sleeping quarters
Captain Hook’s Cabin
Hearth with creepy cravings
Little miniatures
A number of collections: classic mirrors and footwear
Dropdown mattress
Oil portray of himself
Different cozy inspiration (vogue, meals, drink or something?)
Superb costumes, particularly the baseball uniforms
Magical mermaids
Charge this film from 0 to five Hooks
Emma – 12 hooks for visible however 3 crocodile burps for storyline
Elsie – 6 hooks
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Episode 222 Transcript:
Elsie: You’re listening to the Lovely Mess Podcast, your cozy, consolation pay attention. At the moment, we’re rewatching the 1991 film Hook, starring Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman, and directed by Steven Spielberg. I’m so excited. I like this film. That is one in all my favourite motion pictures from my very own childhood and I completely always push it on my youngsters. So I believe it needed to be performed. Goldie was truly, we had been watching it yesterday to prep for this and she or he requested me, she mentioned, isn’t your podcast for grownups? And he or she was like, why are you watching a child’s film?
Emma: That’s a superb query, Goldie. Yeah. Very perceptive of you.
Elsie: I do know, proper? However I imply, I really feel like for those who’re a millennial particular person, you grew up with Hook. In all probability. I hope you probably did. If not, I’m sorry as a result of it’s not directly society failed you as a result of it truly is the final word.
Emma: It’s unhinged in all the very best methods. And there’s so many well-known individuals in it. It’s simply well-known particular person, well-known particular person, well-known particular person. It’s loopy. So nice film. So for those who haven’t seen it, right here’s a synopsis. Mainly it’s Peter Pan grown up and he has forgotten that he was Peter Pan and Captain Hook comes again and kidnaps his youngsters and Peter Pan has to return to Neverland. Keep in mind who he was. He’s Peter Pan. He can fly. He can combat. He can crow and save his youngsters from Captain Hook. And Captain Hook, in the meantime, is low key making an attempt to get the youngsters to like him as a result of he thinks that it’s going to make Peter Pan jealous and unhappy. And that’s just about the plot of the film. It’s a two and a half hour film although, for the way brief that plot is. That is like one of many longest youngsters motion pictures that I can consider.
Elsie: Yeah, I believe it truly is likely one of the longest youngsters motion pictures of all time. I imply that could be very lengthy. I watched it in like three settings, and I didn’t even get completed all the way in which. However I watched it final yr, so I felt like I used to be shut sufficient.
Emma: We deliberate, my husband and I, we had been like, okay, as quickly as Oscar goes down, make a quick dinner and begin this film as a result of it’s lengthy, and we’re drained. We can’t keep up until midnight watching Hook so, needed to get began. It’s lengthy, it’s an extended one.
Elsie: Okay, recollections from while you first watched this film. So we had this film on a VHS tape as youngsters. So it was very repeated. We sort of had like The Robin Williams assortment, like, just about this one and Mrs. Doubtfire, although, are for me like my very continuously rewatched, so, I most likely watched it like 100 instances in life, you understand, as a result of while you’re slightly child, at the very least within the Nineties, within the period earlier than Disney Plus, you simply rewatched the films that you just owned so many instances.
Emma: Yeah, I really feel like we had, like, eight VHS tapes of children stuff that we watched was like Little Giants, Hook, Mrs. DoubtFire, Sister Act 1, Sister Act 2, Rookie of the 12 months, you understand, and the rationale I bear in mind them is as a result of we watched them so many instances since you would simply rewind them. After which watch them once more since you didn’t have streaming. That wasn’t how TV labored again then.
Elsie: Yeah. I believe that once I suppose again to my childhood, me watching this, I had loads of consideration in direction of Tinkerbell. And like Julia Roberts’ little Tinkerbell, and never as a lot now. Now I really feel prefer it’s extra like equally unfold out by way of all of the characters, however yeah, it’s an exquisite film. I don’t suppose as youngsters, we actually respect that, however one of many causes we needed to do it for the podcast, it actually is sort of a stunning inside design film. So for those who want one thing to observe along with your child, that is also stunning for you, and might preserve your consideration not directly, that is one thing we suggest.
Emma: Yeah. Visually, this film is a ten out of 10 or extra. It’s simply unimaginable. All of the costumes, all of the interiors, all of the props, the whole lot in regards to the visuals is unimaginable. It seems like they made it like a Disney world and filmed at it. You already know what I imply? It’s loopy. And yeah, as a child, the 2 issues that I bear in mind protruding to me was there’s a scene the place a personality will get in bother with Captain Hook. He thinks that they’re a traitor and so they put him in a field and so they name it a boo field and so they put a scorpion in with them on this chest field. I bear in mind as a child considering that was so scary and as an grownup, I additionally suppose it’s so scary. I additionally like for no matter motive within the early 90s, scorpions had been a little bit of a factor as a result of I believe there’s a scorpion in one of many Honey I Shrunk the Youngsters motion pictures. And it’s very scary too. So I bear in mind being very frightened of scorpions as a child, despite the fact that it wasn’t like one thing that we actually have in Missouri. I don’t even suppose we’ve got them at throughout right here.
Elsie: Yeah. No, Nova has watched all of the Honey I Shrunk the Youngsters just lately. And I’ll say we’re not going to do them in a rewatch most likely. However I extremely suggest them. I do suppose they aged effectively and so they’re nonetheless simply nearly as good, like superb.
Emma: After which the opposite scene I liked as a child and nonetheless love now that I believe holds up for all of the love that I had for it’s the meals combat scene. It’s sort of the scene the place Peter Pan is turning into himself once more, as a result of he can’t see they’re having a feast and he can’t see it. It’s like a make consider feast. However then because the scene goes on, he begins to see the meals. And it’s sort of the second that within the film the place he’s turning into childlike once more, he can see the issues that the kids see. And so it’s this particular factor within the film, however visually it’s like, the meals is sort of made out of paint. It nearly seems like they similar to acrylic painted like pies and coloured whipped cream. And they also have this meals combat that the meals doesn’t actually appear to be actual meals essentially, however it’s extraordinarily colourful and it principally all seems like whip cream.
Elsie: It’s paintball meals.
Emma: Yeah, it’s like paintball meals, however it’s actually enjoyable and it’s essentially the most stunning meals combat scene. And as a child, I bear in mind considering like, man, I actually wish to have a meals combat. That appears so enjoyable. Prefer it was like one of the best.
Elsie: Yeah. I like that. Oh my gosh.
Emma: I like it.
Elsie: Okay. So we’re going to actually break down the decor inspiration from this film. So something we’d use in our own residence, which to me was a shocker, however I do have some love, hate, sturdy reactions, et cetera. Okay. So the three predominant like areas that I really feel like are the keys. Inform me for those who suppose I’m lacking any are Granny Wendy’s home in London. And the Misplaced Boys treehouse in Neverland, and Captain Hook’s cabin on the pirate ship in Neverland. Is there anything you suppose?
Emma: No I believe these are those, like, these are the areas I consider for positive. So Granny Wendy’s home, it’s in London, in order that they’ve gone on an airplane and so they’re in London now and the premise is sort of like they haven’t been right here in like 10 years or one thing, they haven’t seen her in a very long time. Once they stroll into her home, it’s just like the second the place I used to be like, oh yeah, this can be a Christmas film, trigger it’s like Christmas time, they’re visiting her for Christmas. And there’s a tree up, and like, so her home is slightly bit adorned for Christmas, however I really feel like you may see what it could be adorned all yr spherical too. However yeah, so for those who additionally desire a low key Christmas film, I believe this matches the invoice. Seems it’s Christmas at first of the film.
Elsie: That’s a cool commentary. Okay, so the 2 components in her home that I used to be very, like, centered on are the kids’s bed room and likewise Grandma Wendy’s bed room. So, first we’ll do the kids’s bed room. I imply the kids’s bed room is like essentially the most magical a part of Peter Pan apart from Neverland. Prefer it’s all the time magical as a result of it’s like this excessive up like lofty bed room with a balcony. It all the time has a balcony. It all the time has home windows which you could open up and stroll out of.
Emma: So Peter Pan can fly and go to the nursery as a result of that’s the premise of the previous story.
Elsie: Yeah, and this one could be very stunning with wooden particulars, plenty of like an vintage vibe and it has a doll home. It has beds with a cover, like a fort that they’ve constructed. It’s excellent. I imply, I believe it’s like the final word youngsters’s bed room, so I liked it. I’d take all of that for my very own home. There’s nothing about it that I wouldn’t settle for.
Emma: I believe it would slot in your own home too. It’s extra grandma and fewer spooky than your own home, however it’s loads of the identical stuff. Like actually cool previous crystal chandeliers, actually tasteful, fascinating wallpaper, historic stuff. Like, yeah, I might see Goldie dwelling in that child’s bed room and liking it. Though she’d be like, the place’s all of the princess stuff? I want extra princess stuff, however it’s sort of shut.
Elsie: So yeah, we are able to put a number of additional princess issues in there. Okay, after which the opposite room that simply, like, threw me was Grandma Wendy’s bed room. So within the scene the place they, like, the kids have simply disappeared, they’re, like, laying in her mattress all collectively, simply, like, speaking about, like, what to do. Her bed room is so good, and I used to be like, I believe I can use all of those concepts for my very own bed room. As a result of, similar to, the way in which the mattress was located with the tables and the wallpaper and the whole lot, it sort of regarded like I might translate it. And, so the factor that was particular about it, that I believe my bed room’s lacking now could be that sort of like each inch of the wall was lined with artwork and like gold frames. Prefer it was simply actually full and it made me understand that possibly mine is sort of a little bit too empty for what I really need.
Emma: Effectively, she’s a grandma.
Elsie: True.
Emma: It takes a lifetime to curate that sort of assortment, however you understand, you may attempt to do it within the subsequent yr. I understand how you’ll.
Elsie: I can and I’ll. Yeah.
Emma: Sort of all through the home like each these rooms after which sort of the downstairs They present us that similar to little particulars of knick knacks and issues as a result of the home could be very full However they’ll present like a ship that’s inside a bottle and also you understand later that it seems similar to Captain Hook’s ship. I believed there’s plenty of little I don’t know in the event that they’re actually Easter eggs, however positively just like the set designers had been like, that is Wendy’s home, and she or he’s been to Neverland a bunch of instances. So loads of her tiny knick knack decor goes to sort of mirror some Neverland issues, and it does, and it’s actually cute. It’s sort of just like the Residence Alone home in that method the place there’s loads of little issues that you just don’t understand till you’re actually wanting and you then’re like, Oh.
Elsie: It’s much like the Residence Alone home, however just a bit extra antiquey as a result of the Residence Alone home, it’s very 90s. Yeah, like very 80s, 90s. And this one is a bit more historic. Nevertheless it does have that, like, full, wealthy feeling with, like, plenty of candles, plenty of frames, plenty of, you understand, simply particulars. And I believe that that’s most likely, like, one of many high issues that I’m interested in, like, why I can’t establish as a minimalist. Regardless that I want I may very well be similar to I like issues so full.
Emma: There’s nothing in you that’s minimalist.
Elsie: Effectively, I imply, I wish to be like I wish to be much less wasteful, you understand so like I need just like the minimalist mindset, however I truly need like a maximalist house.
Emma: Granny Wendy has a maximalist house and it’s Yeah.
Elsie: I believe I’m going to take a screenshot of her bed room and simply end off my bed room precisely the identical as a result of it’s so excellent. So yeah, while you’re watching, catch that bed room and also you’ll see precisely what I imply. I don’t know. I really feel like there’s like this particular factor when there’s artwork even like behind the lamps, you understand what I imply? Yeah, prefer it’s simply very full as a result of proper now it’s like I’ve my entire mattress and on that entire wall and the partitions beside all of it there’s one portray above our mattress and now I do know that isn’t good.
Emma: Your bed room might go extra. Yeah, the fireplaces 10 out of 10.
Elsie: Yeah. I like it. Okay. So do you wish to do the treehouse?
Emma: Yeah, let’s speak in regards to the treehouse. Which is definitely, I really feel like, deceptive as a result of it’s actually extra of a collection of treehouses. It’s extra like slightly neighborhood of treehouses.
Elsie: Let’s name it a treehouse compound.
Emma: I wish to know if there’s a treehouse HOA and you need to adhere to sure issues while you transfer in.
Elsie: It is vitally constant, so I believe there most likely is.
Emma: Yeah, oh yeah. There’s some sort of one thing occurring there.
Elsie: Okay, so for me, like, the treehouse is one in all, I imply, it’s like essentially the most epic, like, set of the film. There’s nothing from it I’d use in my house. It’s extra like what you’d need for like a fantasy playground that you might like take your youngsters to, you wouldn’t essentially need it in your yard or something, however like, it’s so large and magical and the way they’ve, you understand, they’re like lengthy desk the place they will all eat collectively and it’s excellent.
Emma: It has like skateboard ramps, it has zip strains, it has this like slingshot that they’re making an attempt to assist him bear in mind easy methods to fly and it simply shoots him into this large like pool of paint mainly. However they every sort of have their very own little sleeping quarters. It’s like they’ve their very own little treehouse part that’s like the place their mattress is and the place they sleep at evening as a result of it exhibits all of them waking up within the morning as a result of they’re like, Peter Pan’s right here. He’s again. However then they discover out it’s simply previous Robin Williams and so they’re like, he doesn’t bear in mind us. However yeah, it’s an epic, epic treehouse compound. And I can see why not one of the youngsters wish to go house as a result of it seems so enjoyable. Simply play all day and simply be little monkeys on the market for positive.
Elsie: Yeah, it’s unimaginable. I believe it could make a superb, like, factor at a theme park or one thing, you understand, to make, like, that into, like, an enormous playground which you could climb on and zip line. My youngsters love a zipper line.
Emma: It has to have a skate ramp someplace for teenagers who know easy methods to skateboard as a result of it’s a giant a part of it. There’s a basketball part the place they’re taking part in basketball. Yeah, it’s simply, it’s cute. It is sort of a bizarre playground, like a bizarre playground the place they sleep within the bushes. It’s so cute. And also you see Rufio, you see the clock that Tinkerbell sleeps in. What else? There’s simply loads of like moments across the tree home space which are very epic. I already talked about the meals combat, however I really feel like that’s like a giant scene within the film. And yeah, it’s an epic a part of the film for positive.
Elsie: Ah! Yeah, I like it. Okay, so I’ve this, like, completely happy reminiscence earlier than our grandma, Carina, handed away a number of years in the past, she sort of like had these like grand concepts, like one of many issues I liked about her was she simply received these like very intense, kind of like, borderline fantasy concepts of issues she needed to do for actual and I believe I inherited that trait from her. Yeah. It’s very like, I don’t know, it all the time made me completely happy, however one of many final issues I keep in mind that she was speaking about was that she needed to construct one other, so she lived in a log cabin that she constructed herself and it was stunning. I’d say like a medium sized log cabin, prefer it wasn’t small. It wasn’t a giant mansion. It was like, you understand, three bedrooms or one thing. And he or she mentioned that she needed to construct one other cabin after which she needed it to be accessed by way of a bridge within the air. And I used to be like, oh my gosh, like that is, that was the factor about her that I like most treasured was similar to, I don’t know, it’s like she was nonetheless slightly child in her coronary heart. Like, she was a dreamer. And I wanna be that method. I like that about her.
Emma: I like that about her, too. It’s enjoyable, dreaming up until the top.
Elsie: Yeah. I want that I’d’ve made her draw an image, although, as a result of the way in which I imagined it most likely wasn’t the way in which she meant it. Nevertheless it may’ve been, I don’t know.
Emma: It makes me take into consideration, like, when hospitals are related, like, over a highway with a bridge like that or one thing. And it truly is actually cool. It’s enjoyable to stroll throughout, like, Oscar loves these sorts of issues. Effectively, and I used to be like, are you gonna construct the opposite cabin over the pond, so that you want the bridge, so that you stroll over the pond, or the bridge simply goes over nothing.
Elsie: What’s the purpose of the bridge? Yeah.
Emma: Which is ok, however often there’s a motive, prefer it goes over a highway or one thing.
Elsie: Anyway, it jogged my memory of a treehouse once I was occupied with it. And you understand, like typically I am going down a kind of rabbit holes of just like the treehouse cabins, you understand. Like Airbnb, for those who go on there, it begins like recommending issues to you after which it’s like very straightforward to go down a rabbit gap for me.
Emma: I’m all the time treehouse Airbnbs. It’s simply fascinating.
Elsie: Yeah, I believe that they’re actually cool. So possibly sooner or later. So let’s do Captain Hook’s cabin. This half was the half that actually, like, shocked me. I used to be like, this can be a vibe, and I’d truly take the whole lot in his cabin. Like, for my own residence precisely. It’s a superb vibe in there. And I wasn’t anticipating to be like, I believe I’m Captain Hook. Like, decor smart. It was excellent. It was excellent. So it had a fire with creepy carvings, which you understand is like one in all my high of the tops. It had like little miniatures, which I like. After which he had similar to loads of collections. Like when he sits down and he has like eight classic mirrors. It was like, oh my gosh, I believe I’m him.
Emma: All his footwear. And so they’re all precisely the identical, however they only present them lined up. It’s like, cool. Yeah.
Elsie: , The drop down mattress. Okay. So for those who haven’t watched the mattress, it comes down from the ceiling a way, someway. It simply has a pulley or one thing and a mattress simply kind of seems from the ceiling. In order that half is actually cool. A very good resolution. I’ve by no means seen anybody do this in a small condo, however most likely somebody ought to. Even higher than a Murphy mattress. I imply, I believe it is perhaps higher than a Murphy mattress since you don’t have to make use of a wall on it.
Emma: No. It simply comes proper down from the ceiling. So I believe too, like his cabin appears like slightly little bit of a really fancy previous man and later within the film they sort of reveal that he’s even older than you may suppose he’s. Like one of many issues in Neverland is that you just don’t age when you’re there. Though you sort of do. There’s some issues with that within the storyline. However that’s, you understand, no matter. That’s apart from the purpose. The concept behind Neverland is that they’ve damaged all of the clocks as a result of Captain Hook is frightened of clocks due to the crocodile and time stands nonetheless. However you sort of see that Captain Hook has aged loads and he’s a flowery previous man, which actually matches his cabin and bed room loads. And his finest pal, Schmittie.
Elsie: Sure. Greatest man, no matter he’s. Yeah, it’s a entire vibe, and I believe it’s my favourite inside within the film, which is sort of a shocker, however so cool. Okay, the very last thing I’ve down is he has an oil portray of himself. And I actually suppose that if you wish to be Knives Out aesthetic, which I do, that’s just like the primary factor you need to have. So I believe it’s time for me to place that on my listing. And I need one for everybody in my household, not simply myself, however like, I need an vintage wanting oil portray of our members of the family so unhealthy. So I’ve to make that occur.
Emma: We had been at a museum over the weekend and it had like previous, you understand, oil work, you understand, as a museum. And so they had some youngsters ones. And I used to be like, oh my gosh, you need to get one thing of your women. Trigger I used to be picturing Marigold, wanting sort of like slightly queen to be in her portrait trigger she is going to. She’s dressed like that every single day anyway. And I simply suppose it’s so timeless and bizarre and funky. And yeah, it’s a factor to cherish endlessly.
Elsie: It’s positively a transfer. So I’m excited to do it. It’s simply so uncommon these days, individuals don’t simply fee oil work of their household anymore. Not sufficient.
Emma: They actually don’t.
Elsie: Okay, effectively, I decide to it. Everybody, you may maintain me accountable, I promise.
Emma: Additionally canines, I believe we’d like extra oil work of canines too, in my view.
Elsie: I like that. Or for those who’re a cat particular person, no matter. Okay, different cozy inspirations. Was there any vogue, meals, drink, anything?
Emma: Ido suppose the costumes on this film are unimaginable. Whoever the costume designer, the entire division, they did an exquisite job. A few of my favorites, although, is definitely the scene the place they sort of arrange this baseball recreation as a result of Captain Hook is making an attempt to win over Jack and he performs baseball and like his dad didn’t present up. Peter Pan didn’t present as much as his final baseball recreation and it’s like displaying what a nasty father he’s like he’s not concerned in his youngsters’ lives. So anyway, Captain Hook units up this baseball recreation to sort of have a second with him and the outfits that the opposite pirates are sporting it’s like an previous timey Baseball outfit. They’re like pink velvet and simply method excessive ridiculous. I used to be like, each costume on this film is bananas and so good. It’s like they went laborious with the costumes. I like the Tinkerbell gown outfit. I like her avenue put on too. And I really feel like if we don’t point out the mermaids in some unspecified time in the future, then we’ve actually missed the mark on the Hook episode.
Elsie: Oh yeah. Marigold walked in whereas we had been watching the mermaids after which she needed me to maintain rewinding it.
Emma: Yeah, their make-up, their hair. I imply, they’re underwater, so I don’t know precisely how they achieved all that. I bear in mind as a child considering like, wow, these mermaids look so cool as a result of they’re actually colourful and totally different wanting than mermaids in different motion pictures, I assume.
Elsie: Yeah, I believe they’re one of the best mermaids ever. Very magical. Okay, I’m into the overall aesthetic. Like, the start of the film the place they’re simply, like, boring wealthy mother and father, I’m into that aesthetic. I’m into the ending, I’m into all of it. I believe it’s simply, like, I don’t know, like, the proper, like, mixture of, like, conventional and kooky. And, you understand, I, like, tried to do a Peter Pan theme in one in all our rooms, however then it didn’t work out as a result of the chandelier wouldn’t match.
Emma: Yeah.
Elsie: After which I needed to transfer it. However possibly I ought to do a Peter Pan theme in a special place. I don’t know. Or it may well simply be unfold out all through. True. Just a bit bit in every single place, like Grandma Wendy. I believe I might establish that method. Okay.
Emma: Since you saved the ship chandelier, so it’s already round.
Elsie: 100%. I imply, it’s a giant a part of my persona. It’s a giant chandelier. Everybody behold, for those who come into my house, you’re going to get the tour. You will notice the ship.You’ll not miss it. Okay. Is there anything?
Emma: I imply as we’ve talked about I believe visually this film is off the charts for me. Prefer it’s simply stunning units, stunning costumes, even down to love Rufio’s hair, how they alter Peter Pan’s hair as soon as he transforms and remembers who he’s like Robin Williams hair. They actually go for it. And I like it a lot. And as a lot as I gush about this film and love this film, I’d additionally must level out that I believe that there are some issues with the story. I sort of really feel prefer it might have taken like yet one more draft. It’s just a bit unusual. So one the film’s fairly lengthy for a child’s film, however as I used to be watching it, I used to be like, okay I’m gonna suppose by way of what I’d reduce if I used to be gonna attempt to get this all the way down to be two hours as a substitute of two and a half and there actually isn’t loads of scenes. Prefer it sort of does all slot in there fairly good. So it’s kind of stunning in that method. I’d most likely reduce the scene the place Tinkerbell turns into massive and she or he mainly hits on Peter Pan. So I really feel prefer it doesn’t make sense with the remainder of what her character does all through the film, the place she’s mainly serving to him to get his youngsters again. After which she has this second the place she’s like oh, you’re Peter Pan once more and also you sort of forgotten your youngsters. Perhaps I’ll hit on you. It’s simply this sort of like what are you doing.
Elsie: Simply gonna see what occurs.
Emma: I Really feel like they only needed to indicate her gown. It’s the one time within the film the place she turns into life measurement and she or he has this stunning like princess gown on. And it’s stunning. And it’s Julia Roberts who performs Tinkerbell. So I get like what they’re doing, however visually, 10 out of 10. Story smart, I don’t know what they’re doing with that scene.
Elsie: They only didn’t wish to waste Julia Roberts being tiny the entire time.
Emma: Yeah, that is smart. I get that. After which there’s simply this different half the place they’re sort of speaking about his origin story. They do a flashback and so they’re like, Peter Pan ran away. However what they actually present is that this stroller that rolls away from its mother who’s speaking to a different mother on a bench after which the infant’s like laying on the street within the rain. And that’s the Peter Pan ran away. I’m doing air quotes proper now. I’m like, why did they present a child getting misplaced? That doesn’t make me really feel like Peter Pan ran away that makes me really feel like he’s simply misplaced which the opposite youngsters are referred to as Misplaced Boys, so I’m like, it’s simply unusual. Then additionally, for those who’ve learn the previous e-book, seen the previous one, you understand the story of Peter Pan. It does have a little bit of a factor the place like, all the ladies or women within the story like Peter Pan. There may be this sort of bizarre factor with that. Like, Wendy’s sort of in love with him, Tinkerbell’s sort of in love with him, Tiger Lily’s sort of in love with him. It’s simply kind of a factor. And on this film, they do this too, however there’s loads of totally different generations of girls. And so it’s very bizarre. And it’s just a bit like, you’re like, huh. If I don’t take into consideration that very a lot, okay. But when I give it some thought in any respect, story smart, I’m not positive what we’re doing. I don’t learn about that. That’s slightly odd as a result of he marries Wendy’s granddaughter. Anyway, it’s just a bit bizarre.
Elsie: I believe typically you don’t wish to look that intently. So you need to take your readers off for that.
Emma: Yeah, I sort of suppose if you wish to simply take pleasure in this film for the visuals, you might be in for a deal with. It’s beautiful, however don’t suppose too laborious about a number of the storylines. It’s bizarre.
Elsie: When you wanna like analyze it intimately although, you may e mail Emma and it appears like you may have a pal who needs to try this with you.
Emma: Effectively, there’s additionally just like the alligator on the finish eats Captain Hook. This film’s been out endlessly, so spoiler, Captain Hook will get eaten by the crocodile, however the entire film, the crocodile is mainly a statue. And so they’ve sort of talked about how they’ve, I believe killed the crocodile and stuffed it, however then ultimately it falls on him, doesn’t transfer in any respect, simply falls on him, and he disappears. I assume he will get sucked up in there, however you hear the crocodile burp. So then I assume you understand he’s nonetheless sort of alive, I assume. The crocodile burp for me is rather like what’s taking place? I don’t know. So anyway, there’s some issues in regards to the story the place I’m like, yeah, I don’t know, I don’t learn about that. However I like this film. It doesn’t actually even damage it for me in any respect however I don’t know. I believe it might have taken yet one more go on the draft.
Elsie: Yeah, child getting rolled away in a stroller. How does that even occur in any universe ever?
Emma: Then it falls out of the stroller into the road and Tinkerbell finds the infant. I don’t know. It’s an issue, I believe. Story smart, it’s an issue.
Elsie: Aww. Effectively, I believe it’s a really artistic tackle Peter Pan, as a result of I’ve watched loads of these motion pictures with my youngsters. And as youngsters, we watched the Mary Martin model, the place there’s a girl, a blonde girl with brief hair who performs Peter Pan. That was one in all our VHS tapes. I like this one. It’s aged rather well. It’s very stunning. It’s very magical. And I believe that if we’re being trustworthy, each model of Peter Pan has some sort of drawback as a result of it does have like some racism and a few issues that like some individuals suppose that such as you shouldn’t even learn Peter Pan or watch any film, you understand, as a result of it’s like, it’s slightly tainted and I get that. So I believe that yeah, I don’t know, Peter Pan is sort of a tough factor to tiptoe round, however I do suppose it’s a magical story, and I do suppose that issues, you understand, that had been written like 100 years in the past typically have issues.
Emma: Yeah, I like that they’re doing a grown up Peter Pan who has to recollect his previous. I believe that’s an fascinating premise.I’d give it like 12 out of 10 hooks for visuals after which similar to, you understand, like three crocodile burps out of 5 for storyline.
Elsie: Okay. I’m gonna give it six out of 5 hooks simply because I didn’t acknowledge Dustin Hoffman the entire time I used to be watching it.
Emma: So, One in every of my favourite of his performances.
Elsie: I’m in love with him. I believe I’ve a crush on Dustin Hoffman slightly bit. Anyway, now I’m like, I get it. I get it. Anyway, okay. All proper, let’s do some trivia. This trivia is actually good. You wish to go first?
Emma: Yeah. Okay, so there are loads of well-known cameos within the film. So George Lucas and Carrie Fisher are the kissing couple on the bridge when Tinkerbell is taking Peter again to Neverland. You actually like can’t even hardly see them.
Elsie: I didn’t know that in any respect.
Emma: They’re similar to lifting up off the bottom as a result of she will get a little bit of fairy mud on them and the concept is that they’re having a cheerful thought. And completely happy thought is what makes you fly. You actually don’t even see them, so it’s humorous that it’s well-known individuals. Glenn Shut is the bearded pirate who will get locked within the boo field.
Elsie: That’s epic.
Emma: Which till you understand that, I really feel such as you don’t even know that it’s a girl in any respect. And Gwyneth Paltrow is a younger Wendy. After which this one I didn’t even understand in any respect within the film, however my husband did. It’s Phil Collins is the police inspector. Simply Yeah, Phil Collins is in it. I don’t know.
Elsie: Jeremy has a giant Phil Collins factor, so I believe I’d acknowledge him, most likely, from all his, like, sorry, however, like, very creepy album covers. His album covers are so intense. Okay. The road spoken by Rufio, you’re useless jolly man, needed to be spoken backwards by Basco, because the scene was shot after which performed in reverse. So the sword blade would come away from Robin Williams face as a substitute of towards it. His precise spoken line was, na me lod – I head rhy you that sounds actually laborious to carry out to me. In order that they did nice.
Emma: Rufio nailed it as a result of you may’t inform, it simply appears like he says, you’re useless, jolly man. Yeah.
Elsie: Oh my God, this subsequent one’s my favourite one. Go forward.
Emma: This one’s wild. Okay. Steven Spielberg and Michael Jackson’s friendship ended because of this film. A number of years earlier, Spielberg had instructed Jackson of his want to make a reside motion model of Peter Pan, a personality and story that Jackson was famously obsessive about, as everyone knows, as a result of he had Neverland. In line with Spielberg, from then on, Jackson was beneath the impression, utterly mistaken impression, that Spielberg had promised him the lead function. And when he subsequently didn’t get the half, Jackson took the perceived snub extraordinarily personally and by no means spoke to Spielberg once more.
Elsie: Actually, like, I relate with that degree of, like, petty. If I really feel such as you stole a dream out of my head after which didn’t let me be part of it. Yeah, I relate with it. I get it, at the very least.
Emma: However I additionally really feel like, are you able to think about Michael Jackson As an alternative of Robin Williams on this film?
Elsie: I even have by no means seen Michael Jackson act. Are you aware if he ever acted or like what made him really feel like he may very well be an actor?
Emma: I don’t actually know if I’ve.I’ve seen music movies of him.
Elsie: Yeah. No, I do know he can dance. I do know he can dance, however like, I wager for those who do sufficient music movies, you most likely really feel such as you might be an actor as a result of there’s loads of appearing within the movies. However like, you understand, he did the zombie.
Emma: Yeah, I believe musicians typically are, you understand, performers and so they can translate, however I simply don’t see Michael Jackson.
Elsie: And it’s a comedic function, however I additionally really feel like, I hope that Steven Spielberg at the very least provided him a cameo, as a result of I really feel like he might have performed a cameo if it was that particular to him. He might have discovered a possibly he didn’t wish to do it. I don’t know.
Emma: I imply, it appears like everybody received a cameo in the event that they needed one as a result of that they had loads of bizarre ones.
Elsie: If it’s like Peter Pan or nothing, I really feel like that’s sort of, that’s slightly on you. Okay. The scene the place Peter passes his sword to one of many misplaced boys was improvised. Not one of the solid knew that he would go the sword aside from Robin Williams and Steven Spielberg, so the reactions of the boys had been real. Aww.
Emma: All of the little boys who play the misplaced boys nailed it on this film. They’re all actually good and quirky and enjoyable and I believed them and I believed they had been cool as a child and as an grownup now I’m like they’re cute and I simply wish to hug every of them. So I liked the casting of all of the misplaced boys on this film. They’re so cute. Okay, Steven Spielberg has overwhelmed himself up over Hook all through the years. He mentioned that he felt like a fish out of water and didn’t trust within the script. Maybe his ideas are finest summed up within the assertion from a 2013 interview. I wish to see Hook once more as a result of I so don’t like that film and I’m hoping sometime I’ll see it once more and maybe like a few of it.
Elsie: Oh no, that actually hurts as a result of I like it a lot. I believe he’s laborious on himself, although, about his motion pictures, typically, as a result of I heard he was like that about Gremlins, which can be one other, like, absolute banger. So, I imply, I assume he possibly simply has very excessive requirements, which that’s most likely why he’s Steven Spielberg, however I don’t know. I really feel like he ought to simply, like, let this be one of many biggest youngsters’s motion pictures of all time.
Emma: Yeah, I additionally really feel like this and to an extent Gremlins, they’re very totally different clearly, however they’re each a bit wacky. They’re each a bit on the market stretch like this isn’t Jaws. That is one thing else and I believe they’re fantastic, however it most likely is sort of laborious to artistically love one thing that’s so wacky prefer it’s simply you understand I believe anytime you stretch your self as a artistic, it may be laborious to like the consequence.
Elsie: Actually, I wager it’s similar to, he remembers these, like, few crucial issues individuals mentioned, which everybody can relate to that. It’s like, while you make artwork, you all the time bear in mind the worst assessment. You do. You simply all the time bear in mind.
Emma: Do I like the script of this film? No. However do I like this film? Oh my gosh, sure. So I sort of really feel like Steven Spielberg made it.
Elsie: Okay. Effectively, we’re gonna write him a letter and we’ll set issues proper and we’ll be certain that.
Emma: You probably did an important job, Steven. Yeah, we’ll be sure that he is aware of. I’m positive you care what we expect. You probably did an important job.
Elsie: Okay. Dame Maggie Smith, being solely 56 years previous on the time of filming, was aged by make-up to play 92 yr previous Grandma Wendy. I did marvel about that. I used to be like, how? Trigger we’ve been watching Harry Potter loads and I’m like, how does she look the identical? Like simply eternally all the time the identical. That’s very fascinating. I really feel like she was sort of like Betty White in that method. Prefer it was like she was sort of doing like an previous particular person’s costume earlier than she was actually previous.
Emma: I questioned in the event that they had been planning on doing extra flashbacks after which they didn’t. As a result of more often than not that she’s within the film, she’s the 92 yr previous with the heavy make-up. And the make-up seems nice. Very convincing. However yeah, I used to be like, oh, this actress, she’s not likely that previous.
Elsie: She’s nonetheless alive proper now. Yeah. And this film’s from once we had been slightly child.
Emma: She’s an exquisite actress, however I used to be like, why did they solid her? Why didn’t they solid somebody older? As a result of more often than not she’s previous within the film, however possibly they had been planning on doing extra flashbacks or one thing, however then it didn’t work out. Trigger they had been like, oh, it’s already two and a half hours.
Elsie: I believe I picked the suitable particular person. I believe she’s nice.
Emma: It was simply sort of a, you understand, like, effectively, okay she’s simply in heavy make-up the entire time. All proper. I don’t know. Okay.
Elsie: Okay. So, I assume that’s the whole lot for Hook. We love this film. We might love to listen to from you your rewatch requests. So it may be something. It may be a child’s film, it may be a brand new film, it may be an previous film. The one factor although it has to have is, like, rewatchability, the place you might watch it, you understand, like, you’ve watched it many, many instances in your life and also you’re by no means bored with it. And the second factor, it has to have like, similar to the comfortable, the aesthetic. We did do Jurassic Park, which might be like essentially the most unhinged factor we ever did.
Emma: Jurassic Park is superior.
Elsie: Did we do Gremlins already or had been we doing it subsequent yr? I wager we’re doing it subsequent yr.
Emma: I really feel like we simply speak about it on a regular basis.
Elsie: Okay. I used to be simply beginning to consider all of the Steven Spielberg motion pictures, however anyway. Okay. Are we his largest followers? I do know I’m the most important Gremlins fan.
Emma: I additionally love Minority Report.
Elsie: However we’re not doing Minority Report for the podcast.
Emma: Why not?
Elsie: Oh no! Okay. Ship us your request. If you’d like Minority Report, then I must know that one different particular person apart from Emma on this entire world would need that. However yeah, I believe we do wish to preserve doing these semi endlessly. As a few years as we’re doing the podcast, we’ll preserve doing motion pictures as a result of they’re our favorites and so they’re actually enjoyable. Anyway, it’s time to go to a joke or a reality with Nova. Hey Nova, what do you may have for us this week?
Nova: A reality.
Elsie: A reality? We haven’t had a reality shortly.
Nova: Yeah, I believed we must always change it up. And so let’s do that reality. Do you know, like, within the previous days, Skateboarding was referred to as sidewalk browsing.
Elsie: What? Are you severe?
Nova: Yep.
Elsie: That’s a cool reality. I didn’t know that. I wish to go sidewalk browsing. Do you wish to go?
Nova: Perhaps.
Elsie: Okay. Have a superb week, everybody.
Nova: And I’ll let you know yet one more reality to make you not likely wish to do it. It’s one of many harmful sports activities.
Elsie: Oh, most harmful sports activities.
Nova: As a result of lots of people have, like, scraped themselves. Or harm themselves, like, loads. Perhaps, like, 100 individuals yearly.
Elsie: Oh gosh!
Nova: Or much more. So it’s possible you’ll not wish to be a kind of individuals within the hospital. . So I wouldn’t depend on it for those who don’t wish to get harm.
Emma: All proper. Thanks a lot for listening. You’ll be able to submit questions or rewatch concepts at [email protected] or you may name and go away us a voicemail, however simply bear in mind to make it concise. So give it some thought forward of time if you wish to go away a voicemail as a result of we wish to play them within the episodes. And that quantity is 417 893 0011. We’ll be again subsequent week, and we’re going to be deep diving into shopping for furnishings in your house.
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